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    Buying crates gives you 2.5x more value on your gold

    Was bored and decided to create a spreadsheet about gold units. Figured out the average gold cost per attack and defense stat for crate units and non-crate units. Then compared the average costs of the two. On average you should be getting over double your gold's worth opening crates, as opposed to just buying the non-crate units. This was already common knowledge, but just wanted to see the numbers.

    On average, you should be receiving a unit from the crates with an attack of 49.05 and defense of 50.42 (using the following equations with current WWII crates):

    Attack:
    [ ( 0.65 * ( (14+25+29) / 3) )+( 0.25 * ( (72+85+62)/3) ) )+(0.1 * ( (126+145+211)/3) ) ] = 49.05

    Defense:
    [ ( 0.65 * ( (26+38+21)/3) )+( 0.25 * ( (87+74+59)/3) ) )+(0.1 * ( (195+119+96)/3) ) ] = 50.4167

    This averages out to 0.985 gold spent per attack stat and 0.9586 spent per defense stat (Assuming you buy a 3 pack which is 48.33 gold per crate). When this is compared to non-crate units (2.47 gold spent per attack and 2.61 per defense) you are getting just over 2.5 times the value.

    Attack: (2.47/.985) = 2.51

    Defense: (2.61/.9586) = 2.72



    Like I said, was just bored haha.





    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ElRSXM4ZGxkWlE
    Last edited by Dr. Dengus; 05-09-2012 at 01:20 PM.

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    Really nice math there Dr.

    Ya, crates on the whole are excellent, and the numbers of rare drops is consistant with the perchentages .ie 9%

    I've gotten 4 rares out of 20 crates over the last while, that's not bad at all!

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    Nice maths Dr.Dengus, and thanks for confirming the value of crates over buying individual items.

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    You could of just threw numbers and symbols together and I would of believed you. Last time I bought 3 pack crates. I bought 5 3 packs and only got 1 rare...soo... Wp Bought 10 3 packs and only got 1 rare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dengus View Post
    Was bored and decided to create a spreadsheet about gold units. Figured out the average gold cost per attack and defense stat for crate units and non-crate units. Then compared the average costs of the two. On average you should be getting over double your gold's worth opening crates, as opposed to just buying the non-crate units. This was already common knowledge, but just wanted to see the numbers.

    On average, you should be receiving a unit from the crates with an attack of 49.05 and defense of 50.42 (using the following equations with current WWII crates):

    Attack:
    [ ( 0.65 * ( (14+25+29) / 3) )+( 0.25 * ( (72+85+62)/3) ) )+(0.1 * ( (126+145+211)/3) ) ] = 49.05

    Defense:
    [ ( 0.65 * ( (26+38+21)/3) )+( 0.25 * ( (87+74+59)/3) ) )+(0.1 * ( (195+119+96)/3) ) ] = 50.4167

    This averages out to 0.985 gold spent per attack stat and 0.9586 spent per defense stat (Assuming you buy a 3 pack which is 48.33 gold per crate). When this is compared to non-crate units (2.47 gold spent per attack and 2.61 per defense) you are getting just over 2.5 times the value.

    Attack: (2.47/.985) = 2.51

    Defense: (2.61/.9586) = 2.72



    Like I said, was just bored haha.





    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...ElRSXM4ZGxkWlE
    Good work... I certainly appreciate that bit further support for my Gold Spending and surviving the big boy posts... I copped flak (Thank god I'm not a Russian) for my recommendation on buying bulk triple crates! So glad to see your boredom and mine resulted in this...

    I have found so far touch wood, buying 1500 gold and dumping it into 8x3 crates has resulted in Rare drops around 20-25%, at common's expense. Have two of the big ones too which would cost 750-950 each as individual items and instead I have a back bone of over a hundred (event and crate alike) units that can't die.

    On top of that I started out (before using crates) only buying individual gold units iff (maths terms not miss spelling) either (A+D)/G = 1.2+ or A/G or D/G = 0.7+ otherwise I felt it was a watse. Buying crates has yielded (in bulk) ratios 1.8+ and above accross the batch.

    Heres my list to date of Crate Units.
    Type Unit Own Base ATT Values Mod ATT Values Base DEF Values Mod DEF Values Cas Rate Strong Against Cost $/V/G $/V/G/E/C/D
    SEA Oceanic Destroyer 1 222 257.52 228 264.48 Indestructible 58 Crate
    SEA Combat Catamaran 1 213 247.08 237 274.92 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Red Steel Jet 2 162 165.24 88 89.76 Indestructible 58 Crate
    INFANTRY Objective Force 3 144 146.88 125 127.5 Indestructible 58 Crate
    SEA Night Eagle 4 140 162.4 110 127.6 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Havoc Helicopter 3 130 132.6 140 142.8 Indestructible 58 Crate
    GROUND Armoured Transporter 1 110 145.2 153 201.96 Indestructible 58 Crate
    GROUND SP Howitzer 5 95 125.4 45 59.4 Indestructible 58 Crate
    GROUND Autonomous Destroyer 4 88 116.16 57 75.24 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Thunder Bird 6 88 89.76 54 55.08 Indestructible 58 Crate
    GROUND Mobile Landing Pad 2 80 105.6 182 240.24 Indestructible 58 Crate
    INFANTRY Resistance Soldier 1 74 75.48 78 79.56 Indestructible 58 Crate
    SEA Storm Destroyer 3 70 81.2 228 264.48 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Turbo Jumpjet 1 62 63.24 87 88.74 Indestructible 48 Crate
    AIR Tarantula Hawk 3 56 57.12 104 106.08 Indestructible 58 Crate
    INFANTRY Mountain Insurgent 4 55 56.1 91 92.82 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Defender Helicopter 4 48 48.96 98 99.96 Indestructible 58 Crate
    SEA Wave Crasher 9 36 41.76 16 18.56 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Assault Jumper 2 34 34.68 16 16.32 Indestructible 58 Crate
    GROUND Mortar Jeep 7 32 42.24 20 26.4 Indestructible 58 Crate
    GROUND T-Rex APC 9 28 36.96 22 29.04 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Wasp Fighter 14 27 27.54 31 31.62 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Jumgle Hunter 1 27 27.54 31 31.62 Indestructible Crate
    GROUND Lone Star 7 21 27.72 34 44.88 Indestructible 58 Crate
    AIR Troop Transporter 2 21 21.42 32 32.64 Indestructible 58 Crate
    SEA Sub Hunter 4 17 19.72 39 45.24 Indestructible 58 Crate
    SEA Liberty Transport 1 14 16.24 38 44.08 Indestructible 48 Crate
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    I love gold units!

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Priest View Post
    I love gold units!
    You being 'punny' calling us units? or do you actually mean 'gold units' I never know with you Mr War Priest

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    Wow this was my first ever post haha. Thanks for the feedback guys, glad someone else appreciated the effort. This was back when three packs were 150g and rares had a 10% drop rate. I did the same math (estimated value) for the 175g three packs somewhere. And with the rare chance being increased up to 15%, the 175g three packs are still worth their weight in gold

    Oh and I haven't kept that spreadsheet up to date with LE's or anything. I just used it to compare the crate units with the other gold units available at that time. I feel honored to have a thread of mine revived though haha.
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    Must have been something in the air (certainly here in Beijing right now anyway....yuck) cause I did pretty much the same as you Dr Dengus.

    Started out as a plan to work out the most cost economical cash and Valor units to get taking into consideration my current lowest level attack and defense unit. After that decided to do the Gold units as well. Did it a little differently to you by again taking my current lowest attack and defence unit strength into consideration but crate items filled the top seven slots on overall value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiss Of Death View Post
    You being 'punny' calling us units? or do you actually mean 'gold units' I never know with you Mr War Priest
    I mean gold units.

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